Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Who's a Sellout? Going Mainstream

We've all had that one artist that we love make a song that was a complete disappointment. You sit back and question whether the artists even wrote the song because it is so unlike him or her. Its one of the most depressing feelings and might even make you feel like the rest of the songs were just as fake.In todays world of Hip Hop selling out is a huge problem that artists face. Selling out has now become part of the game. Once an artist gets their name out there, they have to decide how far away they will stray from their original style and how many offers they will take with the new found fame.

With selling out becoming such a big part of Hip Hop, we now have to decide where to draw the line. Which artists should be named a sell out? and how do we know when their music has gone mainstream? In the end it all comes down to each fans opinion, and whether they believe the artists has sold out or not. It all depends on the original picture of the artists and whether the fans think they have forgotten where they came from.

There are many different ways that artists can sell out and many different things that artists have done that dont really support the image they have made for themselves. When looking at all the different ways you always need to consider whether the artist did it to remain relevant or if they did it just for the money. Because in the Hip Hop game today artists have to stay on  a fine line between fading away and becoming old news or selling out.

One way artists tend to stray close to mainstream music is when they begin to talk about all the clothes money and cars they have. No one likes to hear the same old song about fucking bitches in your Ferrari while drinking expensive Champagne....It gets old quick. But is this a strong enough point to accuse someone of becoming a sellout? For example, I could name thousands of Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, or Birdman songs about all their money and you would agree with me that these songs are sellout songs. But what about artists like Kendrick? Personally I dont think he has gone mainstream at all but even Kendrick has spit lines such as "Girl I'm Kendrick Lamar AKA Benz is to me just a car" so does this make him a sellout?


How about other means of selling out? Is Ice Cube a sell out? If we look at the image that he puts out as a rapper we see a hardcore gangster screaming "Fuck The Police" But then who is the man that appears in "Are We There Yet" that Ice Cube doesnt seem like he is "Straight Outa Compton" at all. So did he sell out by making that movie? Thats up to you.


 
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Oh but it gets worse. What happens when a classic artist that has made a huge impact on the world of Hip Hop makes his own Reality show?? Public Enemy was a group that left a gigantic mark on the world of Hip Hop with songs such as "Fight The Power" that inspired millions of people to rise up and stand together supporting eachother. But its hard to take any message Flava Flav says seriously after seeing the multiple seasons of "Flavor of Love"



So at the end of the day it all really depends on how accepting of a fan you are. Deciding whether your favorite artist has sold out or not depends on how many things that dont follow the original image of the artists that you are willing to deal with. There will always be artists that you cant accept selling out and artists that make one bad song and never get listened to again. 


21 comments:

  1. I don't think that Kendrick sold out because he went mainstream but rather since he is so famous and successful it attracts other successful rappers (who happen to be mainstream). Ice Cube and Flavor Flav on the other hand completely sold out. On another note, the "Using Kendrick as an example" continues in with four in a row.

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  2. I agree with what you mentioned about seeing an artist you like selling out. I'm not sure if I would actually consider it a sell out but I like a lot of the stuff Fabolous used to make. His newer stuff doesn't even seem like him.

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  3. I found it hard to see where you were going with this article since there was no clear analysis of what it means to be a "sell out." Personally I see people like Ice Cube, Ice T, P Diddy, etc, as artists that came into the game with a purpose, left at their peek, and have moved on from the lives they once lived. That doesn't neccessarily mean they sold out. It just means that they were able to leave the life they used hip hop to release themselves from. For example, as a die hard Snoop Dogg fan, I can honestly say that he has sold out. He came into the game as a gangsta rapper, did movies as a gangsta (literally no film were he isn't a gangsta, pimp or just aggressive, except racing stripes)and had two shows where he was himself, a gangsta rapper. If anyone has any artists they know that have also sold out, I would love to hear everyone elses take selling out in hip hop.

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    1. My main point was that i believe selling out is determined by each fan themselves and i never actually said that ice cube sold out, i just pointed out something that others would consider a sell out but you as different opinion could also think that he did not sell out

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    3. Okay, I appreciate the response; I don’t want you to think I was bashing you or anything like that. I just wanted to know who you felt sold out as a hip hop artist.

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  4. I agree with your post. Ice-T always had this persona as a bad ass who hated the police. But once he got on Law&Order: SVU people got mad because he is playing a cop; the same people he dissed constantly in the media. I also agree with Adam that Kendrick didn't go mainstream but in a way became relevant when more people became aware of his music.

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  5. I feel like some rappers get stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to "selling out." A rapper doesn't want to fade away and become irrelevant, nor does he want to divert to much from what got them there in the first place, like you said. Some rappers try to find a happy medium between the two, like Kendrick did where he has a couple lines in other songs that aren't really like him. Other rappers are unsuccessful and thus become "sellouts" in our eyes.

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  6. This was a good blog. However I think it depends what your definition of mainstream is. For the basic fact that he has been mentioned in like every post in the last month, he is mainstream. I think the only way to go mainstream is if "we don't got no worries"

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  7. It is hard to say who is a sell out and who isn't, and it is also hard to classify an artist as just being either underground or being mainstream

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  8. I completely agree with your statements about Ice Cube selling out because he went mainstream and did movies like Barber Shop, Are We There Yet, and other movies. Why would he use his rapper stage name for movies? Doesn't make sense to me either.
    I don't think Kendrick is a Sell Out at all. He clearly killed someone and is emotionally distraught about it. That being said, if he were to rap about killing and violence, he's got the credentials to back it up.

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    1. "Barber Shop" is a trill ass movie

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  9. I agree its tough to be a sell out because selling out is often determined by the success of a song. A song a rapper writes that stays underground many times seems true to themselves. But if a song breaks out into mainstream he is considered often times a sellout. I think a rapper can sometimes sell out without that intention.

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  10. You're right hip hop artists have it way harder in staying consistent without getting played out.

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  11. I don't agree that Ice Cube is a sellout. I know that you didn't say that he was, but including him as an example implies that he is on the edge. Ice Cube has always been into film. He talks about his love for film in a lot of interviews. You can't forget classics like "Boyz n the Hood", "Friday", "Anaconda", and "The Players Club", a film about a college stripper, which he also directed. And if you haven't seen "Three Kings", you need to. These films portrayed the more nitty gritty Ice Cube that he started out as. With "Are We There Yet?", I feel he was just broadening his horizons with a family film. After all, he's getting old. I liked this blog, and I liked how you reinforced how it is up to the fans on who is a sellout, but I think you should have used obvious examples of who has become a sellout. Or, as a fan, you could have said who you thought was a sellout.

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    1. For example, in terms of style and composition, Lil Wayne is an obvious sellout. Hell, you can even toss lyrical content in there.

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  12. I don't think that with some of the artist you mentioned can be considered a sell out. Just because Ice Cube is doing movies now, and Flavor Flav has esentially become an embarassment to the black community doesn't mean they sold out. I feel like with rap there comes a time where you kind of grow to old for it. There are some rappers that don't have the talent to change and conform with the times.

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  13. I personally believe that Ice Cube is a sellout. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing but now because he made that movie I can't take him seriously. Today, it's all about the money for some and for some it's the love of hip hop. Cash rules in society. It always has and it always will. We can't hate on these artist for going mainstream because they're doing what they set out to do. Make money.

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  14. Even though I liked Ice Cube, he is definitely a sell out now. I don't think Kendrick is a sell out just because he has one feature where he says "AKA Benz is to me just a car", etc. I did like this blog post though and I agree that its mostly up to the fan to decide whether they've sold out or not.

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  15. this was a well created blog with a good point. But in all honesty, if a record company began throwing millions of dollars towards any of us, most of us would begin to talk about that money and all the things that come along with us. But i agree, Kendrick is not a sellout, his messages are still meaningful in nearly every song

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